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The Evolution of Faith. Full Synopsis With poignancy and humor, Gulley writes about small-town life, things he thinks about while sitting in his Quaker meeting, and why Donald Trump should pay more taxes. If Grace is True. If God is Love. If the Church Were Christian. More filters. Sort order. Nov 13, Kimberly rated it it was amazing Recommends it for: anyone who wants to be a Christian, but feels God won't let them into the club. Life-changing book for me. This is the book that allowed me to once again call myself a Christian. For years, I wanted to be a Christian, always felt like I almost could be a Christian, but the whole hell-and-damnation, fire-and-brimstone fundamentalism with which I was raised kept getting the way.
My good friend Lamar loaned me this book, and I read it in 2 days, and it was a real conversion experience. I realized I was a Christian, and a Universalist at that.
Beautiful, astounding book. Apr 15, Travis rated it did not like it. This is a terribly confused and confusing book. Let me say plainly: I am interested in reading arguments for a specifically Christian universalism. This, however, is a pick-and-choose theology that is illogical, poorly argued, and based on the simple belief that "God whispered to" the author and told him something, and now everything else needs to fit. By just over halfway through the book, he's completed jumped the shark by ditching Jesus as the means of salvation, his divinity, while This is a terribly confused and confusing book.
By just over halfway through the book, he's completed jumped the shark by ditching Jesus as the means of salvation, his divinity, while continuing to appeal to Jesus and the Scriptures certain selected ones to make his case. A simple disclaimer about theology: If you're just some random guy in the 21st century, and you think that because God whispered to you, you can just begin picking and choosing what parts of 2, years of Christian theology are valid and which are not, you're not credible.
And you're too arrogant to be listened to. View all 3 comments. Aug 27, Elizabeth rated it it was ok Recommends it for: Truth seekers. Shelves: theology. There are certainly parts of this book that are incredibly difficult to swallow or stomach, especially the parts about the death of Jesus. The authors do a good job of answering dissenting questions that popped into my head as I read, but I'm not completely convinced of every point in their theology. Salvation for all is a concept I've been wrestling with for awhile now, and while this helps me to concur with the authors on many points, I will have to be content to only hope this is true and not There are certainly parts of this book that are incredibly difficult to swallow or stomach, especially the parts about the death of Jesus.
Salvation for all is a concept I've been wrestling with for awhile now, and while this helps me to concur with the authors on many points, I will have to be content to only hope this is true and not know for certain. Whether it is a belief or only a wish that God's grace is big enough for the entire world and not limited to one group or another, after reading this book I want to act towards others as though it is a certainty.
I would recommend If Grace is True to almost everyone who believes they have all the answers. It's never a bad idea to come at something from another angle and see if it still looks the same Aug 09, Joshua rated it did not like it. Where did these guys go to seminary? I read this book with an open mind. I'm convinced that the concept of God sending people to an eternity of torment; and the fact that the majority of earth's people don't made the standard whether by choice, ignorance, or culture to escape this torture is the single most flawed belief in Christianity.
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So I understand the Universalist's mindset, and was hoping to read an honest and biblical approach to their beliefs. But this book should even make Where did these guys go to seminary? But this book should even make Universalist's upset, as this book treated most of the Bible as bird cage liner.
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In an effort to be fair to the authors, there were a few parts of the book that were enjoyable, enlightening and agreeable. But even the good parts for me were always conditioned with a "however". For instance, I appreciated the fact that the authors stressed experience as an important aspect in our faith. This sometimes doesn't get stressed enough. However, I felt the authors relied on too much experience and not nearly enough Biblical exegesis.
This is a dangerous territory. Cult leaders and abortion clinic bombers use this same method. I appreciated all the Bible verses they displayed that, at least on the surface, seems to justify Universalism. However, with a topic as extreme as this, merely quoting scripture is never enough. Proper exegesis is vital. I understand that this isn't a heavy and theological book, which is fine. But I wondering if they COULD even present a proper exegesis as many of the scriptures they used, they beat around the bush or completely disregarded their true meanings. I truly appreciated the love and passion they have for God and exhibit that to others.
Their verbiage on how God loves everyone was at often times quite beautiful. However, much of this was, unfortunately, like a one-string banjo. I appreciated that they have no qualms about their more liberal theology. I am sometimes considered theologically liberal as I believe that there is still so much in the Bible we've yet to unlock, and the theological traditions should be reexamined and reinterpreted. However, regarding the violence in the Old Testament, they gave wildly absurd pat answers to justify the belief that God has always been a passive, non-violent God.
If Grace Is True: Why God Will Save Every Person
I'm aware the Old Testament violence is problematic and contrary to the descriptions of God under our new covenant, but to flat reject much of the Old Testament without good reason is lazy. I appreciate that they mentioned that Jesus gives the view of what God looks like, but the authors flat out discredit Jesus whenever he talks about the rich young ruler going to hell. And there were a few things I didn't appreciate.
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I didn't appreciate the fact that they indirectly denied the divinity of Christ. They did it in subtle ways. Of course they weren't going to blatantly say it, because that would have lost some of the readers that would otherwise loved the book. I didn't appreciate the fact that the authors sometimes seemed just The mentioned how God saved Adam and Eve and used it for their defense that God is merciful and non-violent. In the next paragraph, they mention that God destroyed the earth with a flood during the time of Noah. They mentioned it, but didn't explain why, as it just contradicted the previous paragraph.
I didn't appreciate that they deny that Jesus' death on the cross had any significance. I'm okay that their not fans with mainstream views on atonement, but to flat out deny it had any importance is just I didn't appreciate that they took C. Lewis' book "The Great Divorce" wildly out of context. I didn't appreciate that they blatantly contradicted themselves at times. As the book defines grace for everyone, including Hitler, they say, "My fear is that if hell exists it will be populated with people like the man C.
Lewis described-Christians offended by grace. Please believe me, I'm not the type of person who just gives one star because he disagreed with the tenants of any book. But I believe that this book should even make Universalists upset. I am utterly shocked that so many people gave this 5 stars. It tells me that a lot of people probably didn't read the book but gave it a positive review just because their fans of Universalism.
I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone. Especially Universalists. Jun 04, Jeremy rated it it was amazing Shelves: heresy. This book is full of new ways to define and conceptualize commonly misunderstood ideas: - Salvation means being freed from every obstacle to intimacy with God - Justice is the end or purpose of salvation, not the means of salvation. Justice does not mean wrath - Grace is the means by which we work toward justice as the end. But the gate to life is narrow and the way that leads to it is hard, and there are few people who find it.
Belief and Scripture are the offspring of such experiences. He continues to reveal himself. Jesus challenged slavish devotion to the written word.
He encouraged his followers to be in relationship with a God who spoke to them personally. He invited them to step out of the rigid restraint of the letter of the law in order to experience the liberating power of grace.
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This has never been a popular message. We are not to worship the Bible; we are to worship the One the Bible reveals. Justice is the end rather than the means. It is making all things just as they were intended to be. Nothing in all of creation can separate us from the love of God. Not even us. When salvation requires a sacrifice, forgiveness and grace become commodities to be bought rather than gifts of God. He came to proclaim a God of love.